Samuk

Just to clear things up, ID licensed Quake 1's engine and game-code under the GPL license. This means its free to use as long as you released your changes.

While we used Quakes qc as a base it has been changed in many area as Quakes gameplay and Halos are very different.

The main effect is that Solitude is stand alone and wont require Quake to play, its took quite a bit of effort to get to this stage but its worth it. Im sure Conscript will get to this stage too.

Ahh, dear me.

Conscript can have a specific engine, but until you completely ditch Quake content in both Engine and QC, so it works only with your games content. Like Solitude, then it's an indie game.

It's not the same deal.

My game will not need quake 1's id1 files to play it, it will be standalone. You are telling me that solitude completely redone(or is going to) every line in the original qc source, and engine source? The would be insanely hard(for me,atleast)

No, What I said was it will feel different to Quake and that will require many changes to achieve this. But it will still be using Quakes code in many areas. That is perfectly fine under the terms of the GPL as log as the rules are abided by.

BioDude, an indie game is a game made by an independent group not funded by a large company. As far as the GPL goes, he doesn't have to rewrite every piece of qc or C to call it standalone. All that means is that the game doesn't REQUIRE quake assets to work. A total conversion is the same as standalone, as one would have to totally convert the mod, freeing it from requiring Quake files, ie standalone. You are obviously trying to discredit Solitude based on your lack of your understanding of basic jargon.
"The code is all licensed under the terms of the GPL (gnu public license).
You should read the entire license, but the gist of it is that you can do
anything you want with the code, including sell your new version. The catch
is that if you distribute new binary versions, you are required to make the
entire source code available for free to everyone.

The primary intent of this release is for entertainment and educational
purposes, but the GPL does allow commercial exploitation if you obey the
full license. If you want to do something commercial and you just can't bear
to have your source changes released, we could still negotiate a separate
license agreement (for $$$), but I would encourage you to just live with the
GPL.

All of the Quake data files remain copyrighted and licensed under the
original terms, so you cannot redistribute data from the original game, but if
you do a true total conversion, you can create a standalone game based on
this code.

John Carmack
Id Software
"