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Shallow Space is a 3D Real Time Strategy game inspired by Nexus: The Jupiter incident and Homeworld.

Shallow Space focuses on organised mass RTS space combat in a fully 3D environment. Ships in Shallow Space are nearly always grouped into Flotillas and Wings, and orders issued to these structures cascade to the subordinate members. Standing orders are issued in advance leaving you to zoom around, activating abilities and arranging support and reinforcements, fine tweaking deployments with traditional controls where nessecary. Should the tide turn in battle traditional control is still available.

The scope of play will be instances situated at Lagrange points in several core planetary systems in which you will be tasked to assemble your battlegroup to deny the opposing force access to your zones of control. You will do this by mining resources, building stations, acquiring blueprints for ships and weapons assembling your fleet from the individual turrets right up to flotilla organisation and officer ability management. You will complete both structured story and incidental missions for rewards and you will play the game as a battlegroup commander, a small cog in a very big wheel.

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So the intention has always been to create a Real Time Strategy game that encompassed as much about space-based fleet management as possible in a game. This includes modelling more detail then you would normally expect and simulating the physics of the ships and projectiles to create more varied and captivating action.

That remit hasn’t changed, but when we released Shallow Space as an alpha some players found a number of issues, issues that could not be ignored – some were easy enough to change, others required another look at the game design document. Fortunately we were able to extract the time consuming, tested and functioning parts of the project and nest it into a fresh project, wiping away many of the reported issues and opening doors to many exciting features not commonly seen in this type of game.

envoy 2016-08-10 22-51-53-40 Much of the game has been redesigned to make it more accessible and appealing


The cost to the project is a setback in time, time is money to any developer but we were prepared to front that cost in favor of creating something that both early adopters and the team will all have been proud to be involved in. The result is a project currently split between the older discontinued alpha available on Steam, and the ‘Overhaul Beta’ that will soon replace it, which is also publicly available on Steam by changing your game branch in the games properties.

So let’s talk about what we can expect.

Shallow Space as an RTS

Real Time Strategy remains the main focus of Shallow Space, and thanks to the feedback from the current alpha is close to being mechanically complete. This time, the RTS layer was built on top of a multiplayer engine ready to be switched on when we have the available resources.

In the current alpha, one of the common complaints was that the arenas are too big which lead to lots of scrolling and a lull in gameplay, this issue was exacerbated by the 3D nature of the combat in that ships needed large areas to parry else the entire arena becomes engulfed in a big, uncontrollable conflict.

In the Overhaul, we get around that by splitting the play area into zones. Each zone might contain a series of installations lending it to a particular function (ie: Ship construction or trade) so not only do we have better control over the types of activity and where, but we can also really explode the scope into hundreds of concurrent zones around tens of planets containing thousands of ships, without fear of overloading the players immediate focus.

An example of zone layout around a planet and the movement of traffic between them An example of zone layout around a planet and the movement of traffic between them


But there are some that prefer the more linear setting, perhaps for casual skirmishes or learning to control their fleets effectively and we will continue to cater for that.

Shallow Space as a 4X

While simulating the activity of a couple hundred ships, it quickly became clear that a traditional RTS interface alone will quickly end up becoming irritatingly insufficient. To combat this we’ll be adding UI elements traditionally only seen in 4X games.

An example of this might be a window allowing the issuing of a sequence of repeatable instructions to your traders or miners or even your combat fleets. This automation, complete with all the relevant data and charts, will give you the option of managing your operation like a business.

There will be some overlap between the RTS/4X layers. So in the early game you might procure weapons and small quantities of material via ‘petty trade’ and issue resource collection instructions locally via the abilities bar, but as your fleet grows into innumerable groups all assembled for a specific task, something a little more geared to the ‘bigger-picture’ is both required and planned.

But more exciting than marrying those two concepts together is that we’ll be borrowing a 4X’s sense of scale.

We are working to create an accurate procedural model of a potentially unlimited number of planetary systems for you to use as your galactic sandpit, each planet and zones will harbor a set of materials that will have you plotting epic journeys for your fleets planning them around the orbital patterns of planets. With each planet containing multiple zones and accompanying parallax environments to match the scene, it’s clear that we intend to not just use space as the visible setting, but completely immerse you in its majesty.

Shallow Space as an RPG

Linear storytelling just doesn’t quite have the impact it used to, and we should take advantage of being able to tell the story from the viewpoint of the Officers on the ships. We think listening to them talk out issues as they encounter them will directly anchor you to the action.

You will still get all the juicy goodness from the current alpha, the ability to customize ship load-outs and appearances but one observation of the current alpha is that none of it matters when it ultimately boils down to who has the higher cumulative DPS. To combat this we can now host the action in multiple zones around a particular planet or even a complete system. Allied forces will play a key part in this with the player able to influence their approach to a situation via dialogue and building reputations.

An early look at the dialogue system and petty trading extensions to the Inventory window An early look at the dialogue system and petty trading extensions to the Inventory window


As it fits we’ll be borrowing much from the MMORPG standpoint of telling the tale, but removing around 80% of the grind. For example, you won’t have to be in the same zone to raise a ship on comms and even if a mission does contain an element of grind you can automate it or even play with multiple fleets on other assignments at the same time.

But mainly in this layer we focus on creating multiple facets to the story, requiring fleet and resource co-ordination taking the intent from a linear driven campaign to a grand campaign in an expansive sandpit.

In conclusion

The hold-up right now is the race to replace the current alpha with functionality that is similar or exceeds what is currently available in the Beta.

That Beta has been humming along nicely in the background, publicly available on the shy for nearly a month now inviting the most patient and passionate of fans to provide constructive feedback. With the core mechanics of the game nearly solid we’re happy to declare that chapter closed to begin work on the fun, game-building stuff.

Expect the detailed update posts to restart shortly, talking about additions and amendments with us focusing on building more of a presence. We’ll revise the roadmap and media, bringing everything to bear on the new Beta and thanks mainly to your support and understanding during the work of the last 6 months; what a Beta it’s turned out to be.

But don't take our word for it, fire up the new Beta and see for yourself!

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ledernierrempart
ledernierrempart

will the game be mod friendly?

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NeighborKid
NeighborKid

I hope so at some point.. love to see a Battlefleet gothic mod for it!

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mawhrin-skel CreatorSubscriber
mawhrin-skel

Best endeavours i'd say, although consideration has been made for it - multiplayer first.

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RyuuKage
RyuuKage

I've been interested in the game for quite some time, but what turned me off from buying in was the camera controls. I had a lot of trouble trying to navigate the camera around since it was always locked to a flotilla, and switching between flotillas wasn't intuitive in the demo I tried. I've gone through all the updates I've missed and haven't seen it mentioned, so sorry if this has been answered somewhere.

What is the current state of camera controls and flotilla switching? Is it the same as the demo, and if so, is it better documented for the player? I really want to get into Shallow Space but the issue was a deal-breaker for me.

Congrats on Early Access and all the progress that's been made though! :)

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mawhrin-skel CreatorSubscriber
mawhrin-skel

Hi there! Getting camera controls to be right for a 3D RTS is no small feat and a lot of work has gone into them to make them much more intuitive. For example, since the demo; you can drag to select height, use the F key to focus on the ships and use WASD or MMB to pan and break camera focus.

It's safe to say that things play very very different from the demo now, which is why we've removed it from the download page. You can find out more about the changes to the controls in this article Shallow.space

Also we are still responding to feedback about the camera, so if you can suggest changes to the control system they might get implemented. Generally though, the camera controls aren't something people mention now and in fact, we've even received some praise about them.

Thanks for your interest, and I hope we can lure you over :P

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RyuuKage
RyuuKage

Thank you very much for the reply! I'll be looking that info over. :)

Generally I compare RTS cameras to the one in the Homeworld games, since that's my favorite design overall.

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Hi
I never gotten too much into Nexus despite that i have the game ever since it got out , probably because i liked Homeworld and Hegemonia Legions of Iron more

Shallow Space has a bit of Sins of a Solar Empire in it and a bit of Star Ruler the first in it too , games i played and liked
So , hmm i think i will try it because it seems really good

Personally i'm not so much into macromanagement of fleets like the videos show mostly and i'm more into close and personal battles up to flying a single ship in the space sims way - when i see them so small and so many i get confused and understand little BUT i do love what happens when they fight and how the ships look
The game is , however , a step forward from 4X titles like Armada 2526 or Distant Worlds in the way battles are simulated in the sense that you'd want ships and battles there to look like in Shallow Space
I think i'm gonna like this game once i learn how to manage fleets
So , you got a 10 from me and i wish you well with this game

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mawhrin-skel CreatorSubscriber
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That's pretty awesome of you thank-you!

Actually it's quite a common criticism, some people just want to dive straight into the game without the micromanaging so we're adding the ability to save fleets and the game will come with a couple that have been preconfigured.

So keep a look out for UPDATE 5 which is coming either tomorrow or the day after! It also adds a new ship, 3 new weapons, 4 new abilities and a ton of other stuff. :)

Thanks again for the ranking and the feedback, it is comments like this that allow us to develop the game and make it more enjoyable for you. Cheers! James

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You are very welcome James

When i see something i like , i always praise and vote it fully because being nice costs nothing but it's priceless in the same time

I did criticize negatively some mods but i won't do it again because i was met with hostile resistance but what is good and feels good no matter if it's not appreciated its value remains the same

Shallow Space speaking , you know , managing fleets is really not a bad idea at all , it gives the player more control over which ones you want to fight rather than the other games where you just recruit them , they pile up and then you go fight - i mean the ships

Now i wonder if the game has a campaign but if not Skirmish is fine to me
I forgot to notice that the game is still not a full version yes ?it's early access ah well this is not a big deal , there's always room for improvement and if you love what you're doing is what matters

I also wonder if you can setup your galaxy beforehand 4X style or you got predetermined maps but i best find out by myself

I played a lot of space based games but not all of them i remained playing I am mostly into : Starpoint Gemini 2 and Sins of a Solar Empire now but Shallow Space is going to look good on my desktop along the others :D

Cheers to you too ! I'm Anyna and i'm somewhat known but if you wanted to share real names then it's Gabriele

Ah yes ! Last thing i'd like to ask : do they have classes ? will Shallow Space have , you know : battleships , dreadnoughts , titans even ? I'm asking because i'm still trying to figure out the concept for the game but it seems you are bringing a new concept which is a really cool thing

See you around

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mawhrin-skel CreatorSubscriber
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> Last thing i'd like to ask : do they have classes ? will Shallow Space have , you know : battleships , dreadnoughts , titans even ?

Yes, there are Corvettes, Destroyers, Cruisers, Battlecruisers and Capital ship initially. You can find out a little more about that here: Shallow.space

Glad you're enjoying it, it's gonna get even cooler pretty quicker with the cool stuff we plan to inject into it so keep your eyes here! Thanks! :)

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Wow I cannot wait to lead them to glory !
Their sizes are proper and their concept are amazing but dang ! the Corvette is so small to the others
Nice way of putting things

Yup these classes are just fine
Thanks for showing me You'll be doing fine with the game

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