We're not talking about copying designs. Of course if you make a Humvee model you're using the GM design. We're talking about someone making a model, then someone else stealing that model, not the design.
Stop trying to toss up smoke and justifying theft, you tool.
We're not accusing Vora_bat for copying a design, but stealing and modifying the model as a whole. I wouldn't care if he simply made his own model of an M1151, but the evidence clearly demonstrates that he simply used NZXSHADOWS' model. Henceforth by stealing his model and calling it his own, he's taking credit for the work done by someone else. Otherwise I completely agree with you.
I'm appalled that you all would rather play a cool game with stolen content than have the integrity to admit the truth. I mean look at every single detail, polygons aside, and explain how everything is the same: concertina wire on the hood, Rhino arm, front bumper, rear mudflaps, the undercarriage, the radio in the cabin, the gunner's cupola and side view mirrors, rear spare tire?!?! These are all specific details that are an exact match. Impossible to be coincidence, as most of these are NOT standard features on an M1151 Humvee.
Nevertheless, the case has been brought up to both BIS developers and the MODDB staff, so its up to their judgement now.
I'm sorry he's fooled you, but not me. It is the same model, with polygons shaved off to lower the count so it will work in MoW. ALL of the details are THE SAME, something that cannot be overlooked. He can fool you with his smoke and mirros so you can try and save your precious mod, but this is simply more damning evidence.
Look at the details in the undercarriage alone: Img.gameru.net How in the world could this be simple coincidence? It isn't.
Also, how is it that the scale of his model is an exact match for NZXSHADOWS? Img.gameru.net
Finally, it is also clear that this model, even if it was designed by Vora_bat, was built off of the sample models supplied by BIS (Arma developers) for Arma modders. This would at least explain the level of detail in the undercarriage and the similarities in scale. This is a clear and LEGAL VIOLATION of the EULA. Nevertheless it still does not explain the same level of detail: concertina wire, antenna array, cupola mirrors, Rhino arm, undercarriage, and internal cabin (wonder why you even need this modeled for an RTS?).=. The wire frame comparison only proves that polygons have been altered/shaved off (a common technique to lower poly count (for those unfamilier with 3d Modelling, just google "Lower polygon count" and you'll find all sorts of tutorials and methods).
This little slideshow may fool the masses, but not anybody who pays attention to the details. These pictures you've provided are now being supplied to BIS developers to demonstrate a clear violation of the EULA for BIS sample models.
Then how did you get the Arma2 model you so wrongly compared? Funny how you can easily acquire the wrong model for comparison but not the one you're accused of stealing. . . .
Its not impossible at all to change the wireframe on a model, thats the biggest load of BS I've ever heard! Its not hard (if you know what you're doing, and anyone who uses Maya or 3DS Max does) to tweak/modify a wireframe to adjust the poly count. Then all you have to do is tweak the texture map to fit and done.
How is it that the concertina wire is now missing off of NZXSHADOWS model?Simple, you're purposefully not even comparing the model you stole. You stole the model from Arma1, but are comparing with the model from Arma2, just to throw people off.
Don't be fooled people: I53.photobucket.com (NZXSHADOWS is the larger picture, compared to Vora_bat's in the corner).
Nice try, but that is the Arma 2 model, not NZXSHADOWS Arma1 model, which you stole.
Don't be fooled, anybody, just look at the missing concertina wire and differences in the cupola compared to the pic NZXSHADOWS showed.
Don't flatter yourself. That model you stole from NZXSHADOWS took him months upon months to create. Its total BS that you could create that along with all of the other amount of content in only two months.
Not to mention that this mod only started in May of this year, yet you have a CONSIDERABLE amount of content, models, all finished, and all working? How is it that you can develop so much more than anyone else in such a short amount of time?
Screen shots of the model were compared.
NZXSHADOWS has alreay provided this picture:
comparing his (the larger Humvee) model to your model (the smaller one in the right hand corner. It is the overall consistency in the level of detail that clearly prove this is NZXSHADOWS original model, only modified. I was once in the US Army, and I've seen tons of M1151 Humvees (this particular model), and no two are ever the same. If you google images of the M1511 Humvee you wont find two that are alike in this manner. Thus it is impossible that you coincidentally created the same model as NZXSHADOWS, a M1151 with a Rhino Arm, the same gunner's Cupola, the concertina wire on the hood, the Antenna array and the most damning factor: the overall scale. All games that feature Humvees have variances in scale since theres no online blueprint for a Humvee for video game modeler's to use. Never the less, the cupola, antenna, Rhino, and wire on the hood are not common or standard features for an M1151 Humvee, just simple little details. Based on this evidence, its clear and obvious that this model was NZXSHADOWS original design.
Nevertheless, it was this evidence what was presented to MODDB Staff and it was with their judgement to delete your mod. Considering your history of using other people's content (our BIS contact actually noted this wasn't the first time they've reported YOU using models from other Arma 2 modders, as well as you using models from other games such as MW2) Its not a major surprise.
Also, its a bit suspicious that you're suddenly on vacation while all of this is going on, and are taking your sweet time providing "proof" that these models are indeed your original design. Just saying, it doesn't help your case, again considering your history here.
Nevertheless, what is done is done, and I hope you can one day learn a lesson from this.
Its the same model, though the MoW version is slightly downgraded so it will work in an RTS.
It is clear this mod has unethically stolen other people's hard work and called it their own. NZXSHADOWS has provided clear proof of this. While I love modern warfare mods, especially RTS mods, I do not in anyway condone IP theft. If you admit you stole and edited other people's work, and legitimately reworked new models/textures on your own, I might reconsider supporting and using this mod, but thats a big maybe.
Its clear that this model, as well as others, have been ripped from other people's work on other games. This mod maker has simply reduced the poly count to fit them in this RTS. I love modern warfare mods, and have been waiting for one just like this, but not if the mod dev is stealing other people's work.
Actually, most servers don't run any addon or mod requirements. Those that do are usually organized clans, squads, etc., that schedule whenever they're going to have game nights for certain game types. Most servers actually don't allow ACE because it can cause problems for a non-ACE mod server (or so I'm told).
Arma 2 is a military simulation more than a game, with a very dedicated community, one of which I wouldn't say is "fractured," but I do agree a mod like this will bring a whole new level of awesome. Keep in mind though, many players who play Arma 2 enjoy the Single Player more so than MP, not because its too difficult or because its too 'fractured," but because its just a totally different experience. Its one of the few games that still promote and deliver fun SP experiences (unlike COD or MOH with their rushed out 5 hour campaigns of cut and paste formulas).
I have windows 7 64bit, so I had to replace the FoC Data folder with the Alliance 2.3x one, and every fifteen minutes or so it crashes to desktop. I try and save every few minutes or so, but its just getting really really annoying. Can you help me?
delivered pizzas all summer so i could afford to build a new one. First one I built for myself was back in '04 and doesn't run anymore needless to say. I've also built rigs for my brother and a friend of mine. Gonna build a rig for my girlfriend so she can do graphic design.
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