No one can ascertain the current Earth year (or if there is still Earth at all), so we start the count from Vostorg-7 year 0. This year marked the arrival of a joint Russian-Chinese colonization probe on Vostorg-7, a probe dispatched a very long time ago - in the early 21st century of Earth. After a long interstellar odyssey, it finally reached the unforgiving yet potentially habitable planet. The initial dreams of forging a unified spaceborne human nation were soon abandoned, as differing visions for utopian societies took root. Instead, seven independent human colonies emerged from the cosmic dust. While most of these colonies succumbed to rapid deterioration, with their inhabitants mutating into otherworldly beings or descending into feral lifestyles amidst Vostorg-7's unforgiving terrain, two colonies stood out as bastions of Man’s determination - the Derzhava and the Planet Cult.
Just like in Generals there were variants of the Technical, we'll have severals national variants of a single unit - Europanzer. This is done to represent the multi-national participation in Landarmee Europa.
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Hmm, nice idea of a MBT system... I suppose there will be no technical differences between the MBTs?
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Well... considering that the M1 Abrams basically has every requirement ticked, it'd only be natural for other nations adopt it, or create similar versions.
Actually, nobody in Europe has adopted the M1 as of now.
But Austria, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Greece, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Sweden and Switzerland have adopted the Leopard 2. Then there is the Challenger, which only the UK use, and similarly for the Leclerc, which France will probably drop in a bunch of years, but no Abrams in sight.
Jupp, thats because the Abrams are Horrible peices of **** compared to anything European ^^
Not exactly. To say that the Abrams is a piece of **** is to say that the Leopard 2 is a piece of ****. All it needs right now is a turbine upgrade and it'll be awesome. We Americans NEVER trusted diesels to our tanks due to the fact that they rarely turned out great.
Actually, Portugal and Italy use adapted Leopard 1, Portugal also still uses Patton tanks like Israel, on reserve, fully customized for armored support and defensive tactics.
The AR-18 is the AR-15 only cheaper and more reliable. It came out less then a decade after the AR-15 did.
Dozens of countries cling to the M16 right now and there are Kurdish fighters grabbing M16s over AKs as you read this.
The AR-18 has not be adopted by any military faction save the IRA, because of the fact that no other faction adopted it besides the IRA.
In other words, popularity is rarely connected to ability.
-12 karma says your wrong xD
In order possibly to head off the massive ******* contest following here, I offer this statement:
Pretty much every modern Western MBT (Leclerc, Chally 2, Leo 2, M1A2, Merkava 4) is fully capable of killing any other tank on that list. There is no "best" tank per se, the margin of difference between these tanks is so minor that it's all about the tactics you use and what support you can bring to the table rather than the actual tanks themselves.
On topic, I think the idea of a random technical-style MBT for the EU faction is a great and unique idea that well-represents the variety a multi-national and diverse faction such as Europe brings to the table. If I may make a suggestion as to a slight variety between the three tanks: LeClerc-speed, Chally-armour, Leo2-firepower.
Thank You and Good Night :D
wouldnt the challenger have more firepower and the Leopard have more armour instead? Im no tank expert thats why Im asking.
Anyway, you are right, there is no major advantage to any modern MBT over the others, for example Merkava is more armoured than a Leopard tank, but cant be airlifted easilly. Tanks are built or adapted for the countries they will serve in, accordingly with the doctrines practiced by those countries armed forces. Modern MBTs are built with possible oponents in mind so closely that they are built and upgraded constantly to be roughly at the same level, there is no virtual advantage except for tactics and strategy.
My recommendation was a very generic and base suggestion with game balance in mind over realism. The Chally has Dorchester which at the moment is pretty much the gold standard in composite armour right now, the Leo's is less advanced than the Dorchester or the DU Chobham that the Abrams uses but still comparable, neither the French or Israeli armours are really well-documented although the Israeli armour has been battle-tested, while the LeCercs has not
I bow to your Common Sense and thank you for ending this "My Tank is best" BS
Ooooh. Is there gonna be a Challenger 2 model?
I 'm not sure I understand, you mean the engine will pick a random model when creating a EuroPanzer ?
Heh, Land Armée...That's some funny Frenglish.
Looks that way. Nice idea. Leopard2, Leclerc and Challenger2? Only visual changes?
The Oil Drums at the back of the tank kinda make it look too similar to the Russian T-90MS model IMO
This tanks isn't French.
I can't see the white flag anywhere.
Good one xD
Mon ami why hate la France so much ? ._.
Actually, the blue and red parts of the flag in the front are attached with velcro.
You have forgotten the Mirrors!
Kind of a pity that this probably kind of precludes any major variations between the vehicles, without issues arising though.
I just remarked that this tank was already featured in the 1st anniversary picture with the cake and all.
Nice work!
That's a nice touch, does abilities differ between these country specific units or is it just in-game model?
I really like this idea.