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Cadh20000
Cadh20000 Nightowl/Fantasy-writer
Sep 18 2012 Anchor

Please post your reasons for or against!
I'm looking for constructive criticism here, not a simple yes or no.
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Core statement:

The game is about character development through a combination of both combat AND negotiation.

Feature set:

  • 3 in-depth skill-sets affecting both combat and environment
  1. Personal: impacting survival on the world-map as well as negotiations with NPCs
  2. Psionic: Primary combat and some movement
  3. Fusion: Advanced combat, some movement, and some environmental manipulation
  • A destructible/manipulate-able environment which can be affected by the Fusion skills (Examples; changing solid ground to swamp or quicksand, causing land-/rock-slides, etc...)
  • Massive world with many terrain types
  • Hostile environments where the world itself can kill the unprepared through extreme heat (magma caves and deserts), extreme cold (high altitude and/or far northern/southern latitudes), drowning, or starvation.
  • Ability to ATTEMPT to negotiate with most hostile creatures, many of whom may respond favorably, thereby granting new Fusion abilities(certain bosses) or trade for rare items("normal" enemies) while others will take advantage to do massive damage or even (in the case of bosses) 1-hit kills
  • Real-time combat which pauses while in the skill or item menus allowing the player to take their time while browsing through them
  • Ability to acquire recipes, gather ingredients, and prepare potions and/or food
  • Trade with NPCs
  • A multitude of creatures to encounter. Many hostile, but not all

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  1. It takes place on Earth in the future.
  2. The laws of reality have changed
  3. Fossil fuels are useless
  4. Global economies crashed when oil became useless/worthless
  5. They have had about 20 years or so to recover but the balance of power has shifted irreparably in the mean time
  6. Chemical propellants and explosives no longer function
  7. Military superpowers (USA, China, etc..) have lost their military superiority when their weapons and vehicles stopped functioning
  8. In poor areas technology has regressed back to the level it was at in the 1700’s and transportation is via pack animals
  9. In rich areas technology has progressed forward to the point that laser rifles are commonplace and all transportation is via electric vehicles, primarily hovercraft
  10. Main characters are twin brother and sister in their mid-teens
  11. Only one is playable, which that is depends on the gender selected at the start of the game.
  12. Eye and hair color(after the fusion with the symbiote) of the main(player) character is metallic silver. Before that both hair and eye color are mahogany brown.
  13. Rifts have opened all over the globe allowing creatures from other realities to come into our world
  14. Some of these creatures want to go home but cannot (ex. Dragon)
  15. Others want to establish interdimensional trade routes (ex. Gnolls)
  16. Some want to raid our world for resources not available in theirs (ex. Rock-Goblins and wood)
  17. Some want to destroy for the sake of destruction (ex. Wraith)
  18. Some want to conquer our world
  19. The energy the rifts are giving off have awoken beings long thought fictional, such as Gaia, the spirit of the planet itself
  20. The final rift to open leads to Hell itself and Satan(the final boss) is coming through.
  21. You use an Psion-Sword(energy-blade) and Psion-Shield(energy shield) to fight.
  22. You also use a variety of magic-like abilities gained from befriending certain of the boss-creatures.
  23. You can negotiate with many supposed “enemy” creatures for trade and new skills, including just about ½ the Bosses(Fusion skills) and the Rock-Goblins and Gnolls(potions, gems, and precious metals)
  24. You use 4 skill sets,
    1. Personal(ex. “Hunt”, “Fish”, “Snipe”, etc…) Level-up through use
    2. Psionic(“Psion-Sword”, “Psion-Shield”, and “Psion-Tether”) Level-up through “Upgrade” items
    3. Fusion(ex. “Fire-Resistance”, “Aqua-Breath”, “Shape-Shift”, etc…) Level-up through use
    4. Fusion-Combo(ex. “Glass-Storm”, “Scald”, “Sucking Mud”, etc…) Level-up through use, cannot exceed lowest level “Fusion” skill component

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It begins with a cinematic, a forested mountain range (deep green deciduous trees), viewed from a ninety degree angle, about three-hundred feet up. It zooms in on an eggshell-white building, and then it fades through the wall to show a view of a scientist about to test his newest invention. It is a machine that is supposed to generate a stasis-field over an area of about five feet. It begins to glow strangely; the light appears to be solid. The scientist panics and runs over to switch it off, as he reaches for it his hand comes in contact with the light, there is a massive spark and he gets knocked back off of his feet. The scene then fades back outside of the building as he frantically tries to shut it down, even taking a fire-axe to the power cord fails to shut it off. As the screen backs away from the building everything appears to be fine... the zoom out increases in speed as it goes, when it is about twenty miles above the surface it seems as though you passed through a yellow-white dome made of light. The screen fades to black... As the screen fades back in it has white text on a black background, and has a narrator speaking the words as they scroll down the screen,

"The Stasis-Field Generator malfunctioned and created an isolated time-loop, within the twenty mile diameter of its field the same week has been repeating for the last fifty years. Thirty years after the outside world had finally given up on penetrating that field a massive earthquake occurs which caused the device to become further miscalibrated. At that time rifts began opening, at first they appeared only within the generator's field, but as time went on they began appearing further and further away. The rifts have an energy field surrounding them that prevents certain chemical reactions from occurring, gunpowder will not ignite nor will combustion engines function within these fields. These rifts have since spread all over the globe, bringing much of modern life to a stand-still as entire armies are rendered helpless when their guns stopped working and motorized traffic came to a screeching halt. As these Rifts stabilized, things... creatures... began coming through them. Everything from Myth or Legend, Dream or Nightmare, exists in some universe, and the rifts are connecting these various realities. Nothing is safe, in this or any other universe..."

The text then fades out and the narrator falls silent. The screen fades back in, this time in another universe; there is a pond in the center of the screen with a small silvery amoeba-like creature (approximately the size of a human fist) within it. A rift opens right next to the creature and a wind rises, flowing into the opening in reality, the creature is swept through. The camera follows the creature through the rift and sees it land in a stream-bed. The screen fades to black again, it then fades back in inside a house and a pair of twins, one male and one female, about fifteen years of age, appear. The screen grays a little and becomes unfocused and a question appears on it, "Are you Male or Female?" Once you answer the camera brightens, refocuses, and then goes into an isometric view of the corresponding teenager. At this point the cinematic ends and you gain control of the character.

© Charles Hillman
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The plan is for an off-line single player RPG with destructible environment(which is required for about 1/2 of the skills to work properly) and an optional online PvP battle mode after a certain point is reached in the story.

Currently, in addition to what is already displayed on here, I have the linear portion of the storyline, the health system, the skills, skill growth, skill interactions, character descriptions, some enemy concept art, and written versions of some of the boss-battle cinematics, along with a partial design-doc.

I'm looking for volunteers to help me develop the game, as for what I'm looking for, in additin to someone to give me some advice on damage calculations, I need...

Well, my programming skills are quite rudimentary(I can make a basic application for Windows or Linux and can make a web-site with HTML and CSS but only know a couple javasripts (image mapping is about the extent of that)) so definitely a Programmer, also a Graphic Artist/3-D Animator to translate my concept art into actual in-game graphics and do the cinematics, and a few Voice Actors(Amateur or professional doesn't matter, a long as they are decent, though I realize pro's would be a lot less likely to help without a definite, immediate, paycheck), and finally a Composer/Musician though an entire group of musicians would be preferable.

Basically, just bumping this back up in the hopes of getting some replies...

Edited by: Cadh20000

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Dec 12 2012 Anchor

So......it's a variation on Palladium's Rifts mixed with The Emberverse? And the gimmick is a destructible environment? Honestly...not so good. Especially not now. Nothing is fleshed out enough. A novelization of the opening cinematic really isn't enough for people to properly look at the game.

Other than that it's an unappealing sounding Rifts rehash with a gimmick, and that you've actually , I really don't know what to tell you

Edited by: TerranAmbassador

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Cadh20000
Cadh20000 Nightowl/Fantasy-writer
Dec 14 2012 Anchor

I'm actually not familiar with the games you mentioned... ?_?
Could you give me a link to some info about them?

Believe me though, there is a lot more already done. I'm just scared to put too much online where anyone can see it, so I may have erred on the side of cauton and I apologize for that.

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Dec 14 2012 Anchor

En.wikipedia.org
En.wikipedia.org

To be honest, what you've presented here is neither original enough to get stolen (not that any good, or at least professional, developer would do that) nor appealing enough to play.

Besides that, let me say this one thing again:

A novelization of the opening cinematic really isn't enough for people to properly look at the game.

Talk about the game itself. What kinds of systems you plan to use, is it going to be 2 or 3D? Point-n-click or twitch? What are your plans for actually going about making this? Things like that. Make it like the back of a game box. Short, sweet, distilled, to-the-point.

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Cadh20000
Cadh20000 Nightowl/Fantasy-writer
Dec 17 2012 Anchor

Thank you for the feedback, stuff like this is helpful and is much more than I had been getting. I'll rewrite this later and post an update.

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Dec 17 2012 Anchor

a little complicate.not bad,but no surprise too.

Cadh20000
Cadh20000 Nightowl/Fantasy-writer
Dec 18 2012 Anchor

Here, while not quite what I was going to do for the rewrite this list is about as good as its gonna get until I can get back on my own comp;

  1. It takes place on Earth in the future.
  2. The laws of reality have changed
  3. Fossil fuels are useless
  4. Global economies crashed when oil became useless/worthless
  5. They have had about 20 years or so to recover but the balance of power has shifted irreparably in the mean time
  6. Chemical propellants and explosives no longer function
  7. Military superpowers (USA, China, etc..) have lost their military superiority when their weapons and vehicles stopped functioning
  8. In poor areas technology has regressed back to the level it was at in the 1700’s and transportation is via pack animals
  9. In rich areas technology has progressed forward to the point that laser rifles are commonplace and all transportation is via electric vehicles, primarily hovercraft
  10. Main characters are twin brother and sister in their mid-teens
  11. Only one is playable, which that is depends on the gender selected at the start of the game.
  12. Eye and hair color(after the fusion with the symbiote) of the main(player) character is metallic silver. Before that both hair and eye color are mahogany brown.
  13. Rifts have opened all over the globe allowing creatures from other realities to come into our world
  14. Some of these creatures want to go home but cannot (ex. Dragon)
  15. Others want to establish interdimensional trade routes (ex. Gnolls)
  16. Some want to raid our world for resources not available in theirs (ex. Rock-Goblins and wood)
  17. Some want to destroy for the sake of destruction (ex. Wraith)
  18. Some want to conquer our world
  19. The energy the rifts are giving off have awoken beings long thought fictional, such as Gaia, the spirit of the planet itself
  20. The final rift to open leads to Hell itself and Satan(the final boss) is coming through.
  21. You use an Psion-Sword(energy-blade) and Psion-Shield(energy shield) to fight.
  22. You also use a variety of magic-like abilities gained from befriending certain of the boss-creatures.
  23. You can negotiate with many supposed “enemy” creatures for trade and new skills, including just about ½ the Bosses(Fusion skills) and the Rock-Goblins and Gnolls(potions, gems, and precious metals)
  24. You use 4 skill sets,
    1. Personal(ex. “Hunt”, “Fish”, “Snipe”, etc…) Level-up through use
    2. Psionic(“Psion-Sword”, “Psion-Shield”, and “Psion-Tether”) Level-up through “Upgrade” items
    3. Fusion(ex. “Fire-Resistance”, “Aqua-Breath”, “Shape-Shift”, etc…) Level-up through use
    4. Fusion-Combo(ex. “Glass-Storm”, “Scald”, “Sucking Mud”, etc…) Level-up through use, cannot exceed lowest level “Fusion” skill component

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